I adopted Ink from Joe, who blogs everyday at http://www.tbfriends.com
Joe adopts Thoroughbreds off the track, mostly, but not limited to auctions and other random rescue cases. He’s a god-send.
Well he announced today that he will be posting pictures of killers, without names, on his site. “Soon I will be showing who NOT to give or sell your horse to. I will take pictures at upcoming auctions. Horse killer Manny Phelps has said he will gladly pose. If you advertise your horse for free or cheap, and Manny Phelps comes to your house, you can tell him to get lost. (feel free to use other phrases) You can protect your horse,” As Joe said on his site today.
I will post the rest of his entry below, because he does not have archieves or anything.
FHOTD (http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/) also had some words to say about the matter; http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/2008/02/love-it-joes-going-to-go-for-it.html
Yesterday FHOTD had this to say before Joe announced he would be posting pictures; “Joe seems to be afraid of legal action and/or of upsetting/offending the hordes of children who read his blog. (Who as far as I am concerned, had better learn about the realities of life NOW before they get old enough to contribute to the irresponsible breeding/ownership problem).“
The above quote came from this post ; http://fuglyhorseoftheday.blogspot.com/2008/02/dealers-who-ship-horses-to-kill-lets.html If you know of any Killers in your area or abroad, go ahead and post them there.
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Joe’s Post on http://www.tbfriends.com
Friday, February 29th… If mail and phone calls were the deciding factor, I would not post pictures of horse killers. Over 80% of readers (keep in mind, our readers are mostly young girls) tell me to leave it alone. Focus instead on the romance of thoroughbreds.
Advice has come from 3 different lawyers. If I show you horse killers I must not include their names. Cathy and I could be sued for damaging the reputation of a person. For slander. And for stopping the everybody in America has a right to earn a living process. I am told there are precedents. At first I thought Presidents, and said sure, how dumb do you think I am? But no, we are talking precedents. You are not allowed to interfere with someone trying to earn a living.
And I must tell you, money earned by horse killers would make Donald Trump jealous. A cattle trailer filled with horses sold to slaughter can bring over 15 thousand dollars. The driver does not need health certificates to leave our state. He does not need health certificates to enter Canada or Mexico. Drives me crazy.
I wrote a billion letters. Did the protest thing in front of feed lots. Hounded horse killers with my usual charm. Trying to stay legal, because I doubt prisons serve fresh strawberry cheesecake. Or praline ice cream. There are more horses from Northern California going to slaughter than ever before. Nothing I have tried has ever worked. All I have left is to show you the men and women who make money from killing horses.
I sincerely hope I do not lose you as a reader. Your mail and phone calls tell me there are people all over the world who tune in each day to my gunk. I love to share with you the magic of horses, especially thoroughbreds. To show you pictures of our horses finding new homes. A whopper of a feeling. Letters come from girls who 11 years ago adopted a horse from us, and still the horse is number one in their life. Their happiness beats anything I have ever experienced.
Soon I will be showing who NOT to give or sell your horse to. I will take pictures at upcoming auctions. Horse killer Manny Phelps has said he will gladly pose. If you advertise your horse for free or cheap, and Manny Phelps comes to your house, you can tell him to get lost. (feel free to use other phrases) You can protect your horse.
If you send your horse to a livestock auction, and you recognize from Tbfriends a horse killer bidding, you can outbid him. And then search other options for your horse.
America is slow dancing this slaughter business. Crossing both borders with large trailers carrying doomed horses is done 3 and 4 times a week from Northern California. Sometimes more. We need all horse lovers to recognize horse killers. And road block their journey. Take away their earning power. Take away their ability to exploit our horses.
An extra day in February, and we could be 72 degrees. Enjoy your beautiful Friday, and be sure to hug your horses. The coffee is Folgers Deluxe, and pastries come from Costco. There are many of you who deserve special hellos, and a giant Thank You. I am way behind on computer things, but this weekend I hope to catch up. I appreciate your patience…
Joe
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“The driver does not need health certificates to leave our state. He does not need health certificates to enter Canada or Mexico”
Your statement is partially incorrect. No you do not need a health certificate to LEAVE anywhere, you need the health for where you are GOING. However, you do need health certificates, Coggins, the proper form and the horses must be inspected by a border inspector or veterinarian before being allowed into Canada. That was easy to find. I have not found the requirements for Mexico, but I do know that they need Coggins and health.
Please keep your “facts” straight. If you can’t convince people without scary propaganda there is something wrong with what you are selling.
LaTonne - Thank You for your input. It might be a good idea to contact Joe to give him the facts you listed instead of me. Although I do appreciate the information myself.
What was written on my blog today was merely information that was obtained from other blogs, mainly Joe’s, to keep some of my own readers up to date.
I’m confused as to what you mean by “If you can’t convince people without scary propaganda there is something wrong with what you are selling.” ?
I don’t think I am “selling” anything?
Yes, I have gone into Canada as well, and you do need health papers and Coggins tests. I hate to say this though, but that doesn’t mean there are not border crossing were guards are bribed and rigs gotten through without such papers. I have crossed at some remote border stations. Anything is possible when human beings and money are combined.
The EIA/coggins is not required if the horse is being imported to Canada “for immediate slaughter.”
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/policy/ie-2002-3e.shtml#5
I raise, breed, show, EAT, love, and train animals of all shapes and sizes. Here are some cons and then pros about horse slaughter…
Cows are just cows. With horses you can ride them, they pull carts, and you can show them.
Ever herd of 4-H where you show market or breeding cattle? Or herd of an ox pull a cart for transpiration, work, or enjoyment? I even rode my uncle’s cow Lucy around the pasture. The difference? People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.
Horses have feelings and it’s wrong to eat horse…
Why is it wrong to eat horse but not swine, cattle, poultry, goat, and so on? Are we not designed to eat meat? Yeah, sure horses feel, but so do other livestock. They can get sick and die, bleed if cut, cry if hurt. I have a 4-H steer who cut his lip and had tears role down his face. The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.
It’s inhumane…
I will agree that not all slaughter plants are humane, but not all are inhumane. Some take very could care of their livestock. Would you prefer to raise a horse for slaughter that only ways 700 lbs. and is sick or a 1200 lbs. that is healthy? The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.
Horses aren’t food they are pets and show love to their owners…
So do swine, cattle, poultry, goat, and so on. I raise, as I said above, many different varieties of animals including horses. I have a pig who will let me get in with her and her piglets, pick up a squealing baby, and not even have her bat an eye at me. While when my friend goes near her piglets she threatens to bite. She knows me, trust me, and LOVES me. Oh that’s right there just stupid animals, right? I don’t think so. Horses are a prey animal, meaning other animals (such as humans) prey on them! The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.
Its better to use euthanization on a horse then use a captive bolt….
I have had animals that were sadly to week, hurt, sick, what ever to go on in life. Not always is euthanization a good death as the word means. Sometimes they may struggle, cry our, or luckily pass on without a sign of pain. Captive bolts are delivered into the brain (most often) killing the horse instantly. But we are only human and sometimes a second captive bolt shot may need to be used. The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.
This is the US of A and we do not agree with consumption of horses…
We? I am an AMERICAN and I am FOR horse slaughter. Besides isn’t America the land of the free? What gives us a right to say ‘Hey you cant do that!’ or ‘you cant eat that’!? Some people think it is horrible that we could even consider consummation of beef and swine. Should we stop eating it because other say it is wrong? I sure as heck won’t! I LOVE my meat! And what about vegetarians who are just completely not for slaughter. Should we stop eating meat completely to satisfy them?
Besides you don’t want to eat horses cause they feel pain. Scientists have done a study and found plants react to pain and comfort. Now are we going to just starve?
This is my opinion. I don’t wish to offend anyone. I am against inhumane slaughter, but not slaughter itself. Those against slaughter need to look in a mirror. We eat to survive. With out food we die.